I Will Not Bow Before Automotive Terrorism

"Margin Of Error" (marginoferror)
01/13/2015 at 15:43 • Filed to: None

Some people here are trying to denigrate one of the best contemporary sedan, a car the served the general public as Police cruiser, or as cabs. A car that provide jobs to many American workers.

There is nothing more American than a Panther.

People are free to say what they want, but I don't believe something bad can be said about a Panther. A strong, dependable, spacious and fast RWS V8 sedan for the mass.

DISCUSSION (49)

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 15:50

I would say "can be made fast".

Margin Of Error > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
01/13/2015 at 15:52

*Can be made ultra-fast

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 15:53

Kinja'd!!!

B-BODY MASTER RACE.

And Panthers are NOT that fast. The only fast Panther is modified or a Marauder.

Captain of the Enterprise > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 15:55

Speaking from personal experience the seats suck ass

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 15:56

They were made in canada and used as taxis by foreigners and as transportation for government use and remained relatively unchanged since the 90s. Big deal. You know what else fits that same bill?

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And guess what? The impala is faster . Oh and it gets better fuel economy. And it's cheaper.

Margin Of Error > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
01/13/2015 at 15:57

The Marauder is an E39 M5 at a friendly price

Margin Of Error > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 15:58

The Impaler was wrong wheel drive, meh

MEH

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 15:58

gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

Margin Of Error > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 15:59

Canada is in America, eh.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 15:59

That's an insult to the E39. A BOF boat with a big motor does not equal an E39.

The G8 is the American (in brand, at least) E39 M5.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
01/13/2015 at 16:00

The last one of these I saw that actually looked good was about 8 years ago. Everyone I've seen since in person has been handed down/bought by persons who refuse to take care of them. Damn shame. I always liked them.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:01

The only reason this fits the terrorism moniker is that both of the cars being discussed give you Stockholm Syndrome.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:01

Being RWD didn't make it any better. And guess which one is still being made?

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Party-vi > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:01

BLASPHEMER!!!

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 16:01

That Impala with the 305 horsepower 3.6L it got towards the end of its life cycle is probably one quick W-Body. Would own.

Margin Of Error > Captain of the Enterprise
01/13/2015 at 16:01

You probably don't have CVPI seats, or even Marauder seats, they're great

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:02

on*. It is our hat. The panther was pulled from our hat. Like pulling a fossil out from underground.

jkm7680 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 16:02

The Impala wasn't a good car though. They could only take about 150k, Were rarely used as taxis probably because of that, and I can name off the top of my head all the major Police departments that used them.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me!
01/13/2015 at 16:03

A minty clean one always manages to get off the highway right behind me every day. Best part of my day.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
01/13/2015 at 16:03

Step 1) Get a 2012/2013 impala "classic" at a fleet auction

Step 2) Strip the interior

Step 3) GM performance suspension upgrades

Step 4) CHEVROLET IMPALER! BEAT ALL THE 3-SERIES!

Captain of the Enterprise > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:05

I don't I have beige velour ones that hurt my back to drive

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 16:05

I really wonder how good the aftermarket for the W-Body is. I imagine it's pretty good given how long the platform was ran.

Margin Of Error > Aaron M - MasoFiST
01/13/2015 at 16:06

I have no idea what you are talking about, but thanks for your input

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > jkm7680
01/13/2015 at 16:06

They were good for 150k without a single turn of the wrench. If you actually do maintenance, they run for just about as long as the panthers. Police didn't use them because they were more difficult to straighten and the fact that the impala made any headway at all in the stronghold of panthers says something about what it offered. Neither are very good. At all, really. They're just big. So my point is if you defend the panther, you have to eithe defend the impala as well or admit that you just want RWD and in that case, the panther is about the worst RD vehicle made post-1995.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:10

2 door box versions are awesome. Drop in a warmed over 302 and have fun.

Kinja'd!!!

For the 98- up versions, installing an aftermarket upgrade Watts link and control arms does wonders from what I hear. Drove plenty of the last ones in stock form. It's amazing how different they would feel from one to the next steering and suspension-wise. Some felt great; others not so much..... I'm talking low mileage cars too.

Margin Of Error > Captain of the Enterprise
01/13/2015 at 16:10

You sir are missing out

Look at these !

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Thunderface > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:12

I like the way you think, Margin

jkm7680 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 16:13

Neither of them were made to be performance cars that every enthusiast will enjoy. They weren't made to be excellent handling road warriors. The Crown Vic, especially the P71 evolved into a purpose built car, and the Impala from that same generation turned into a barely used Police vehicle.

What I don't understand is what you are trying to place the Panther as even. It's meant to serve a purpose. Nothing more, nothing less.

Margin Of Error > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me!
01/13/2015 at 16:13

That coupe is beautiful

Margin Of Error > Thunderface
01/13/2015 at 16:14

Thanks !

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > jkm7680
01/13/2015 at 16:15

I agree with both points, and that is my point. It was a response to the comments of a previous post of someone who didn't like the panther and loved the Park Avenue more than the luxury panthers. Then this post was made, so I made a counter-point that the impala does the same things a panther does, but aside from being more difficult to repair it is better in every other way. So really, the panther should not be held so highly unless you hold up the impala with it.

In the end, they're both just big, simple, crude sedans that the buying public moved away from.

Captain of the Enterprise > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:18

I looked up how much it would cost to do a transplant a while ago with Crown Vic Sport buckets and center console (so the interior would remain the same color) and was appalled at the price. The console alone was several hundred bucks!

Is the marauder yours?

jkm7680 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 16:18

I'm going more on the side of public service vehicles here.

But tons of Police departments tried out the Impala, Hated it and sold all of them promptly. If the Impala does everything that the Crown Vic does, But better. Why did they all get rid of them so quickly?

They still offer the Police Pimpala for sale, and I haven't seen a single remotely new one in ages.

Takuro Spirit > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
01/13/2015 at 16:19

HEY MAN.

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Margin Of Error > Captain of the Enterprise
01/13/2015 at 16:20

I wish ...

It's my dream car, I'm looking to acquire a CVPI as soon as I can secure a full time job.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > jkm7680
01/13/2015 at 16:23

Again - I admit that the crown vic handles being broken and then repaired better. However the impalas were good detective cars since they were faster, got better mileage, and had more room on the inside. But detective/undercover cars make up what 1 out of every 20 to 30 beat cruisers? So of course most departments weren't buying a lot of them and would rather just lump in some unmarked panthers in with the rest of their 5-10 car order or whatever. Besides, being good at being damaged is rather specific to one industry and the impala is pretty tough itself for a unibody.

Being good as a police vehicle =/= being a good jalop car.

jkm7680 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/13/2015 at 16:28

VSP used to have a few unmarked Impalas on the Virginia section of the I-95 corridor. Those lasted for probably less than a year before they were replaced.

Detective cars really aren't beat on as much as patrol cars, They're handled more gently. And that's why the Impala is mainly used by Detectives in certain areas.

Captain of the Enterprise > Margin Of Error
01/13/2015 at 16:29

What do you have now? if you don't mind me asking

Margin Of Error > Captain of the Enterprise
01/13/2015 at 16:32

1996 Acura 1.6 EL